Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic - commentaires Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic 2009-05-11T11:56:25Z https://www.eurobull.it/Humble-Socialists-will-never-make-Europe-democratic#comment6739 2009-05-11T11:56:25Z <p>How to make a fuss about an article bottom-line...</p> <p>Don't worry, there are plenty of brave Socialists, be it Poul Nyrup Rasmussen, or Pascal Lamy, or Catherine Trautman, or Pervenche Bérès, or Jo Leinen, you name them !</p> Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic 2009-05-11T08:30:25Z https://www.eurobull.it/Humble-Socialists-will-never-make-Europe-democratic#comment6737 2009-05-11T08:30:25Z <p>I also think that the socialist (and also the other European parties) have started an important process, debate and also learned some lessons that means that the situation will look different next election. And this is exactly what we are campaigning for - not necessarily to see the results this elections but at least next one.</p> <p>But I still see a problem that the issue has not been properly put into process and discussion throughout all of the party memberships. In Sweden for example, the idea of parties nominating their candidates is completely revolutionary and new. Many people I have spoken to at from different national parties find it an exciting idea but something that is completely new to them. So even if the PES as such, and indeed many MEPs from different parties, are discussing the potential to nominate a candidate, the question is how democratic the decision NOT to nominate a canididate is ?</p> <p>Also the difference of believing the COM president should be nomintaed by the Council to reflect the majority of the EP (as has been the case as well) is quite different from each party actually putting forward their own candidate and politizising the election even more.</p> <p>By the way you can see an answer from Schulz to the article at the Federalist Blog :</p> Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic 2009-05-10T08:41:16Z https://www.eurobull.it/Humble-Socialists-will-never-make-Europe-democratic#comment6734 2009-05-10T08:41:16Z <p>Sad, but spot on indeed.</p> <p>From what I've heard Schulz is hoping to get the parliament's presidency (instead of a seat in the next Commission), but one way or the other the result is the same.</p> <p>But what do you mean by « the party members outside the leadership are not even aware of the debate, nor the possibility, to nominate their own candidate » ? The PES (along with many socialist MEPs) has always been very clear that the next president of the Commission will have to be chosen according to the election's results. The problem is that no one in the party is willing to step up as the official candidate because it is now too late in the campaign and that he/she would take the blame for the (very likely) non-socialist majority in the future legislature.</p> <p>There was a lack of coordination and planning right at the beginning of the campaign. I think the socialists have learned their lesson and will pay it in the elections, so hopefully that won't happen again.</p> Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic 2009-05-08T18:52:23Z https://www.eurobull.it/Humble-Socialists-will-never-make-Europe-democratic#comment6727 2009-05-08T18:52:23Z <p>Fantastic, on the spot. More of that please ! Has Schulz really said that ? Maybe it was a bit out of context...? This latest article on FTD holds taht the socialists want to get rid of Barroso.</p> <p><a href="http://www.ftd.de/politik/europa/:Zweite-Amtszeit-EU-Sozialisten-wollen-Barroso-los-werden/510652.html" class="spip_url spip_out auto" rel="nofollow external">http://www.ftd.de/politik/europa/:Zweite-Amtszeit-EU-Sozialisten-wollen-Barroso-los-werden/510652.html</a></p> Humble Socialists will never make Europe democratic 2009-05-08T14:54:10Z https://www.eurobull.it/Humble-Socialists-will-never-make-Europe-democratic#comment6722 2009-05-08T14:54:10Z <p>Great article !</p>